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Author Topic: Season 4 Episode 12 - There's No Place Like Home, Part 1 - Episode Discussion  (Read 3133 times)
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« on: May 13, 2008, 07:12:43 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2008, 09:23:49 PM »

Nice press conference!
Someone knows what the Orchid is?
Probably anuto-destruction facility...
Have we heard about it before? Is it a station?
Could it be the gaz factory that Dan and Charlotte presumably disabled?
A greenhouse?
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2008, 10:01:30 PM »

dude the music when sun came out of the "restricted" door, kate & sayid captured, and ben walkin in on keamy, was totally epic. i had goosebumps!! but seriously...two weeks for the season finale?  Biting my nails Biting my nails Biting my nails I don't believe it. Of course there won't be an episode on my birthday!  Yank my hair out  lol
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 10:04:59 PM »

nothing incredible happened this episode, kind of setting up the finale
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2008, 10:05:39 PM »

Whats gonna happen to Kate and Sayid?And  how are they gonna get rid of the explosives?It was a good episode
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 10:10:34 PM »

I think this seasons quality of writing were victims of the writers strike.

I really like ben. I think in the end he is going to be who he has said he is all along, the good guy.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 10:59:11 PM »

Did anyone notice that all of the Oceanic 6 are in different places? How is it possible for them to all come together for a rescue? They're all basically on separate sides of the island.

Hugo w/Locke and Ben
Jack w/Sawyer and Ropetas(sp?)
Sun and Aaron on the freighter
Sayid and Kate were carted off by the Others.

NO RESCUE IMMINENT!!!   Biting my nails
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 11:03:02 PM »

I thought that also: the 6 still in different places. The action to bring them together is still unknown.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 12:07:42 AM »

i was thinking that too, and it just seems like 2 hours isnt enough time to reveal all of that in the finale./

when sun walked out the door all slow, i really thought that it was going to explode in there cause of the dynamite. i thought something really bad was going to happen somewhere cause it was weird n all the scenes at that point.
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 06:14:49 AM »

pretty good episode, It felt a little rushed, like they were trying to get too many things out there to us at once. It was definitely a set up for the 2 hour finale. I just don't know how they are going to pull it off and get the 6 together before the season ends... I doubt the 2 hour finale will have any answers about what's going on with Claire, which is a shame, I really want to know what her status is. I also want to see what it is that keeps Jin and Sun apart when they are rescued. I sure hope it's not his death. Two weeks is a long time to wait, but the 8 months after will just be miserable.....
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2008, 06:51:54 AM »

Well I loved this episode and can't wait for the finale  Biting my nails

When the O6 stepped off the plane and their families were there I cried!!  Loved all the FF's really... it's filling in some of the blanks.  And I liked how we saw Jack learning that Claire is his sister.

Also like Jack & Sawyer working together again and Sawyer saying "You don't get to die alone!" cos it's bringing back the whole "live together, die alone" thing.

Nadia found Sayid!!  Not the other way around like we thought!!

Ben being Ben in general - "How many times do I have to tell you John?  I always have a plan!"  Clapping

And my fave quote -

SAWYER:  "You cut yourself shaving?"
JACK:  "Juliet took out my appendix a few days ago"
SAWYER:  "You're kidding me!!"
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 07:16:07 AM »

 4 of the 6 are either at or headed for the Orchid. I had the feeling Sun was getting ready to jump off the boat.
Here is the part I don't get. Richard is moving silently through the island with a pretty large group of armed men. If I count right Keamy has 2 guys with him. So unless their names are Rambo and Chuck Norris, I would think they could take  them out.
Did anyone catch what Ben handed Locke right before he stepped out. I thought it looked like that kill stick he used in the flash forwards.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 08:09:05 AM »

yeah it was his wacking stick.
also yeah 4 out of 6 are heading to the orchid but

hugo locke = orchid already
jack sawyer = heading to the orchid
kate sayid = i think richard will be heading to the orchid also so that will put all 4 in one place and leave sun and arron on the boat
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2008, 09:00:54 AM »

Here's my timeline for the 6 getting off the island...

1. Ben has some evil badass plan and will kill the mercinaries. (Maybe Richard and the rest arrive as reinforcments)

2. Jack & Sawyer find the Orchid - Jack and Locke have the same science vs faith / leave vs stay argument.

3. Richard and the others (with Kate and Sayid) get to the Orchid (4 of the 6 now together there)

4. Ben, Locke, Richard & the others stay at the Orchid and do some crazy island stuff to try to move the island.

5. Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, & Sawyer go back to the helicopter.

6. Sawyer again doesn't want to leave and tells Kate to do something for him when she gets home. Sawyer returns to the beach.

7. The pilot flies the 4 back to the freighter (Sun and Aaron are already there...all 6 now together).

8. Since the boat is rigged with explosives and cannot move or it will explode, they must go back to the island.

9. The six get into the raft and head back to the island just before the freighter explodes.

10. Before they reach the island Locke finally activates the Orchid and the island disapears / teleports / moves away.

11. Since the island isn't there to pull them in (like it did to desmond's boat and michales raft) they, after some period of time, wash up on that island as stated in the Oceanic press conference.

12. Since they can't really explain why there was a fake plane wreak, dissapearing magic island, and widmore's freaighter full of guys trying to kill them they make up that story of everyone dying in the plane crash.

the 6 are now off the island and everyone else is still stuck on it, but it's moved to a new location.


As for the people on the frieghter (Desmond, Jin, Mike) i think they stay behind to try to disarm the bomb but die in the explosion (though i don't know if the island will let Michael die yet).  However, my other idea is they get onto the helicopter just before the explosion (maybe the pilot has trouble getting it started at first and thats why the 6 jump in the raft).  The helicopter is a lot faster than the raft so they could make it back to the island before Locke moves it and then be stuck again, but still alive.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 09:38:54 AM »

What was the deal with Ben and the mirror?  Was he signalling for back-up at The Orchid?  That's what I took from it anyway.
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